Loaded-mag DPM: 2937.6 After the larger 120 mm gun was introduced, reliability suffered, due to the increased weight of the rounds used. Magazine Size: 6 rounds A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. All rights reserved. By 1958, the AMX 50 B received a number of improvements, including a low-profile cast hull and torsion-bar suspension. By 1958, the AMX 50 B received a number of improvements, including a low-profile cast hull and torsion-bar suspension. The tank weighed 64.7 tons, though the weight is commonly rounded up to seventy. This page was last modified on 26 May 2019, at 17:34. The AMX 50, superior in armament and mobility to the existing American and British designs, was seen as the logical candidate for a common European tank, to equip the future armies of the Western European Union defence organisation. In practice there were many obstacles. Nominal: 2582.4 A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Already having a large chassis, the AMX 50 could in principle easily be adapted to carry the desired 120 mm gun — a derivation by the Atelier du Havre of the American gun, using the same ammunition — and had the advantage of a, on paper, very powerful engine. The prototype was tested with gasoline and diesel engines from 1950 through 1952. The technical characteristics are displayed for the charged turbine mode. This decision had to be delayed however, due to the fact the engine problems had not been solved: reliability could only be assured if the output was limited to 850 hp, causing a mediocre hp/tonne ratio of about 13:1. Burst Length: 1 rounds In the first design proposal for a 120 mm version, the conventional turret had a high cupola armed with both a machine gun and a 20 mm MG 151 rapid fire cannon. In the early fifties, NATO tacticians were worried by the strong armour of the Soviet vehicles, that seemed to be immune to the guns of the existing Western types. Burst Length: 1 rounds Maximum possible: 558.3 m, With 50% Crew: 322.9 m Wargaming wiki: "When up-armored version of the Using Shell Type 2 (240 Damage): Magazine-fed Gun Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. 75% Crew: 39.2 s Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. With BiA and Vents: 2.477 s With 100% Crew: 0.336 m With Recon and Situational Awareness: 409.7 m With BiA: 0.338 m Magazine-fed Gun However, it was to suffer cancellation in the late 1950s due to unfavourable economic and political circumstances combined with delays in development." Only the French however, would produce operational systems. 50% Crew: 3048.8 The AMX 50B is another one in the line of the French heavy tanks. With Vents: 2464 It also has a little ace up its sleeve; use it at your own risk! The AMX 50 as originally planned, would have been a medium, not a heavy, tank. Nominal: 30 s Amx 50 120 tier 9 French Heavy Tank review & guide from World of Tanks. Room could in fact only be found by increasing the height of the lower turret half, negating the advantages of the oscillating concept and creating a dangerous shot trap. Armour was increased. A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Gameplay. Vehicle configuration added to comparison, Add the vehicle with its basic configuration to comparison, Add the vehicle with its current configuration to comparison. Artillery at this tier can easily one-shot a full-health AMX 50 120 and will prioritize it as an easy kill. B-C 155 55 182,000. Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. To build an indigenous battle tank was however not merely a question of national prestige. Characteristics are specified for vehicles with crews trained to 100%. Advantageous Damage Per Minute A new oscillating turret with a 120-mm gun was also mounted on the vehicle. Cycle Time: 2.73 s 50% Crew: 2368 To this end in 1948 the Treaty of Brussels was signed, which among other things was also a common defence agreement. Using Shell Type 2 (400 Damage): Magazine-fed Gun With 75% Crew: 369.8 m tanks.gg is a player created website for World of Tanks. 75% Crew: 2186.4 50% Crew: 3393.85 AMX CDC. A new oscillating turret with a 120-mm gun was also mounted on the vehicle. Loaded-mag DPM: 2676 Extremely large and tall silhouette with very weak armor for a heavy tank. Therefore the road wheels were made smaller, compared to the first design proposal, both to save weight and lower the profile of the tank, which was quite high due to a deep hull, a problem only changed in the fifth prototype. The nine overlapping tyred road wheels each side, were however much smaller. Time for the successive autoreloading of each shell into the magazine. 50% Crew: 2457.6 Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. In 1955 the AMX 50 was nevertheless very close to being ordered by the French government, that expected to produce the type for the reconstituted German Army also. The turret had an optical rangefinder. Der Panzer hatte eine verbesserte Panzerung und ein 120-mm-Geschütz in einem Wiegeturm. In response Britain would develop the Conqueror and the USA the M103 heavy tank; abandoning the SOMUA SM, it was decided to let the AMX 50 evolve into a comparable type, even though other French heavy tank projects were in existence, such as the Char de 70 tonnes, a sort of "AMX 70". Especially the engine deck, the sprockets and the tracks are strongly reminiscent of the German design style. With Vents and BiA: 2601.6 That also makes the 40t the better sniper overall, since sniping implies that you are far away from the front. 100% Crew: 2937.6 With Vents and BiA: 2947.2. As with the 50 100, the AMX 50 120 holds tremendous potential and can greatly influence the tide of battle. With 100% Signal Boost: 900 m A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Theoretical Damage Per Minute These changes caused a weight increase to 59.2 metric tonnes. With Coated Optics: 429 m 50% Crew: 1843.2 The in-game AMX 50 120's turret is based on the turret of this tank, as seen from the. Nominal: 2456 Already having a large chassis, the AMX 50 could in principle easily be adapted to carry the desired 120 mm gun — a derivation by the Atelier du Havre of the American gun, using the same ammunition — and had the advantage of a, on paper, very powerful engine. 100% Crew: 3445.35 With Vents: 2944 100% Crew: 1936.8 The tank featured enhanced armor and a 120-mm gun in the oscillating turret. ... AMX Cda 105. The 55-ton vehicle featured a 100-mm gun in the oscillating turret. 75% Crew: 3419.6 French Tanks Heavy Tanks Tank Reviews Tier 9. The gameplay is similar to those of the AMX 50 100 and the AMX 50 120, but with better characteristics. It is true this tank was a heavy tank when under development. The 120mm gun is accurate, but not as accurate as one would expect at far distances. AMX 50 120 first up-gunned version. 50% Crew: 2167.2 Namely, it is more maneuverable and faster than the 50 120, mainly due to a big boost in horsepower. 75% Crew: 3110.6 The fifth prototype used a lower cast hull, with a rounded frontal section for a better weight efficiency. The top speed of the AMX 50 120 was much slower than 65 kph - it used the same engines as the AMX 50 100 while weighing more, and the AMX 50 100 had a top speed of only 51 kph. Actual gun depression and elevation angles were -6 degrees and +13 degrees. With Vents and BiA: 1951.2 With Vents: 3172.4 The tank featured enhanced armor and a 120-mm gun in the oscillating turret. With Binocular Telescope: 487.5 m The … With Vents and BiA: 3450.5, With 50% Crew: 0.446 m With BiA and Vents: 0.321 m 100% Crew: 2456 The same year the Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux(AMX) company presented its projet 141, a project to build the so-called M 4 prototype, a… When affected by 100% Relaying: 440 m 100% Crew: 2203.2 A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Another picture of the seventy (really 64.7) ton AMX 50 120. Entwickelt gegen Ende der 1950er und beeinflusst von den sowjetischen IS-3 und T-10. Magazine Size: 4 rounds A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. To accommodate the larger gun, an enormous turret was fitted; originally planned in a conventional form, eventually it was decided to make it of the oscillating type also. In World of Tanks, however, it's -9 degrees and +11 degrees. 75% Crew: 2528 The TOA-120 turret had a 6-round autoloader. With 100% Signal Boost: 480 m Compared to its predecessor, the AMX 50 100, the AMX 50 120 is less mobile and significantly larger. Characteristics are specified for Rapid mode. Maximum possible: 1125.9 m. The AMX 50 120 is a French tier 9 heavy tank. Selecting another region may affect the website content. The corners between the glacis and the sides were truncated. Magazine-fed Gun AMX 13 90 189,900. In the turret rear back there was the commander's cupola, well equipped with optical equipment. A third AMX 50 project was begun in August 1951. 100% Crew: 30 s Loaded-mag DPM: 3445.35 Maximum possible: 2.158 s, With 50% Crew: 306.4 m a protruding bustle. Using Shell Type 1 (400 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Maximum possible: 0.317 m, With 50% Crew: 0.434 m Teach your crew the Repair skill. When the first two prototypes were made, low weight had already been sacrificed in favour of a high protection level, but it was still supposed to be a quite agile vehicle, in the 45 - 50 tonne weight class, with a hp/tonne ratio of over twenty. The hull was equipped with a torsion bar suspension designed to ensure a vehicle with good cross-country mobility. Foch 178,250. Wikipedia: "The AMX 50 (official designation) or AMX-50was a French heavy tank designed in the immediate post Second World War period. Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. MarkGFL tank reviews the French tier 9 AMX 50 120 heavy tank during 2016 where after analysing its armour profile he then takes us alongside 2 game play replays. Loaded-mag DPM: 2203.2 50% Crew: 2636 At first glance, it is no different from the The hull sides were vertical, as in the case of the Tiger, while the front of the hull was in the first three prototypes evenly inclined at approximately 40 degrees from the horizontal, using sloped armour similar to that of the Panther and Tiger II. B-C 155 58 277,000. With 100% Crew: 0.345 m French Tanks Heavy Tanks Tank Reviews Tier 9. With Vents: 2208 It's important to relocate to more advantageous and safer areas while reloading; don't sit around wasting time. The 50 120 retains many of the features of the AMX 50 100 and is a natural evolution of its playstyle. AMX M4 51 151,700. With Vents: 2595.2 Ultimate Guide to the AMX 50 100 The AMX 50 100 is a fast and agile fighter with a killer 1-2 punch but a glass jaw. Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. The automatic loading system worked satisfactorily when the calibre was 100 mm. With Vents: 29.31 s With 75% Crew: 348.2 m With 100% Crew: 417.2 m Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. Characteristics are specified for Siege mode. 100% Crew: 3162.1 Lynx 6x6 104,400. Advantageous Damage Per Minute With BiA: 2.532 s AMX 65 t 62,500. These differences are taken into account in tooltip boxes. With Vents and BiA: 3182.7 At that time France hoped to regain its position as a Great Power; rebuilding its armaments industry served this goal. The 4-round drum also means that each shot counts much more and that a missed or bounced shot is a sorely wasted shot. This page has been accessed 325,518 times. With Vents and BiA: 28.77 s, Magazine-fed Gun Weighing about fifty-five tons, the general AMX 50 project was the heaviest of a trio of French AFV designs of the postwar period (the others being the AMX-13 and the Panhard EBR) to feature an oscillating turret. With Vents and BiA: 33.56 s. Magazine-fed Gun It was proposed as, in succession, the French medium, heavy, and main battle tank and incorporated many advanced features. The AMX 50 100 heavy tank was a further development of the M4 project. After the war the French Army possessed no modern tanks with a heavy armament. With wholly penetrating hits AMX 50 120 185,000. Horrendous autoloading cycling time; other autoloaders can cycle more than 1.5 times faster. 75% Crew: 2416 Home WOT Tank Reviews AMX 50 120 AMX 50 120 (MarkGFL) AMX 50 120 (MarkGFL) by iFacePalm August 19, 2020. Long-range shots tend to not go straight down the reticule. Expectations were high: as General Molinié afterwards ironically put it, it was hoped to create a tank with the protection of the Panther, the firepower of the Tiger, the mobility and abundance of the T-34, the reliability of the M4 Sherman and all that weighing less than the M26 Pershing. With 100% Crew: 2.589 s 75% Crew: 1896 With 100% Crew: 782.2 m It wields tremendous firepower coupled with high mobility which enables it to relocate and support multiple flanks quickly, all the while enjoying an improved reload speed. The AMX 50 120 can be a challenging Tier 9 to play, due to its huge size with abysmal armor and slow speed; however it is a feared and intimidating opponent, and with good reason. With Vents: 2676 Therefore already in March 1945 the French industry had been invited to design a more satisfactory vehicle. Somewhat inconsequentially, it was hoped that the Americans would fund such a tank, as the financial position of the European states would not allow them to rearm. A properly-played 50 120 provides its team with extreme firepower and invaluable support. The AMX 50 120 is a French tier 9 heavy tank. A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Both its hull and the turret, can be penetrated by any tank that it encounters in the battlefield - only the A tank destroyer having the same 120-mm gun armament as the tank was thought to be unnecessary. With both and GLD: 2.252 s Der AMX 50 120 ist ein französicher schwerer Panzer der Stufe 9. Suspension gives a further boost in mobility and gives you back the playstyle of the AMX 50 100. A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. Firstly it allows for a smaller turret volume, as no internal space is needed for the vertical movement of the gun breech. Maximum possible: 0.308 m, With 50% Crew: 3.345 s To log in, select the region where your account is registered, Or use Microsoft Login to enter WoT XBOX ecosystem. Secondly, it allows the use of a relatively simple auto-loader fed by multiround magazines, achieving a very high rate of fire for as long as the magazines were loaded, as the gun is also fixed with respect to the auto-loader located in the back of the upper turret, i.c. Home WOT Tank Reviews AMX 50 120 AMX 50 120 (Skill4ltu) AMX 50 120 (Skill4ltu) by iFacePalm August 19, 2020. The tank featured enhanced armor and a 120-mm gun in the oscillating turret. Very high caution must be taken as everyone hits very hard and the 50 120 is more vulnerable than ever, although the wonderfully shaped armor may auto-ricochet a lucky round or two. With BiA and Vents: 0.33 m A reloading 50 120 can intimidate enemies in a peek-a-boo situation by simply keeping its gun trained on them. Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. A prototype of the AMX 50 tank. As France would have no trouble obtaining rubber of the desired quality, this feature was superfluous. When affected by 100% Relaying: 825 m With 75% Crew: 0.389 m Maximum possible: 600.5 m, With 50% Crew: 605.4 m There were attempts to upgrade the main gun to 155 mm, but these efforts were abandoned as France made moves to adopt standardized NATO equipment. The improved system allows the time to be decreased for autoreloading the next shell upon firing the loaded shell when the corresponding indicator is displayed. Above the massive hull, there was the oscillating turret, smaller, lighter and more compact than that of the Tiger; the sloped face of the upper part had a thickness of 85 mm. Using Shell Type 3 (320 Damage): {{#ifeq:ARMOR_PIERCING_CR|ARMOR_PIERCING||, Magazine-fed Gun From my experience the AMX 50 100 playstyle branches out into the AMX 50 120 who is more of the heavy support brawler, and the Lorraine 40t which emphasises the fast flanking maneuvers. For the production vehicles it was considered to install a coaxial 20 mm gun; lighter armoured targets could then be engaged without depleting the limited ammunition stock in the turret magazines. This cannon concentrates its firepower into a 4-round drum and makes short work of tanks below the 50 120's tier. The horizontal movement of the gun, traversing, is conventional, but the vertical movement, elevation, is achieved through the pivoting of the entire upper section with respect to the lower section. Side view of the first up-gunned version of the AMX 50 120. Magazine-fed Gun The gun should do the trick quite a long time, You can also go first for the suspension, because you need it for the final gun, the 120mm SA46. The track now had to be supported by five top rollers. 100% Crew: 2582.4 The prototypes were proudly displayed during the 1950 Bastille Day parade. Using Shell Type 1 (240 Damage): Theoretical Damage Per Minute Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. Add another or several vehicles for comparison. Advantageous Damage Per Minute A production was planned of a hundred for 1956. Using Shell Type 3 (515 Damage): The client values, given for 100% crew, will normally be taken into battle with 110% crew skill members aside from specific functions, causing their actual performance to deviate from the expected client value. Foch B 290,000. Because there were five prototypes, it is not possible to give a description applying to all of them in detail. With Vents and BiA: 2472 Plans for the AMX 65t, a related development of the AMX 50. The 4-round drum on the 120mm is a major advantage over the 6-round drum of the 100mm cannon mainly because it allows the AMX 50 120 to deal its potential 1600 damage much quicker and with better penetration. With wholly penetrating hits Developed in the early 1950s under the influence of the Soviet IS-3 and T-10. Nominal: 3162.1 The first two prototypes had twin 7.5 mm "Reibel" machine guns placed on top of the roof as an AA-weapon, a third was coaxial. The tank featured enhanced armor and a 120-mm gun … With Vents and BiA: 2210.4. 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